Julian Fellowes’ unwitting Dr Thorne: not quite hijacked by elite

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The first shot of Tom Hollander as Dr Thorne in the film’s first scene with

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Stephanie Martini as Mary Thorne, where she asks the question [visible in the subtitle] as a prompt for Hollander, Prospero-like to tell us and her not just many chapters of history but what is held back until near the end of the book’s plot-design (ITV Dr Thorne, 2015, scripted Julian Fellowes, director Niall MacCormick)

Friends and readers,

Julian Fellowes has managed to turn the novel Michael Sadleir ended his ground-breaking study of Trollope on (the book that first attracted respectable attention to Trollope — with preferring Dr Thorne to The Way We Live Now) into an apparent embarrassment. Reviewers veer from lamenting the very existence of this throw-back to picturesqueness as a travesty to earnestly showing how it has eliminated just about everything that counts in the novel. Viv Groskop of The Guardian suggested we take a drug to forget this disgrace. The courteous and judicious Alison Moulds of the Victorian clinic demonstrated the central matter of the tale, medicine and illness, comic and tragic, is left out. As might have been expected, Philip Hensher of the Telegraph demonstrates that the point Fellowes gets across (and by implication, Trollope’s) is that it’s impossible to cross (ontological?) class boundaries.

As it happened when the film aired on British TV, I was teaching the novel to a group of retired adults genuinely engaged by the book. Two British, the rest American. Contrary to Hensher (and like a number of scholarly critics, e.g. James Kincaid), they are persuaded this is an obsessive attack on the mindset that erects uncrossable boundaries and about the hurt (Mary made a taboo person) and damage, indeed death (Sir Roger’s and Sir Louis’s) behavior enacting this idea of boundaries that cannot be crossed incurs. Miss Dunstable’s role is to expose the hypocrisy of the social codes as we watch money and power throw people away, ruin their lives, e.g., Mr Romer, the liberal barrister who tried to help Roger Scatcherd, the railway contractor and banker, into parliament. I had hoped to screen the film until I saw that (worse than Downton Abbey where all deeper issues may be skimmed over, but are at least suggested) Fellowes was simply not going to allow any depth to this, among Trollope’s most emotionally direct of all his novels. I admit there was no character they hated more than Lady Arabella, and Fellowes fed this by giving full vent to her as the villainess who experiences a mortifying comeuppance (rather like Miss O’Brien and other upper level servants in Downton Abbey). She is in many scenes endlessly repeating her mantra, but then she is presented simply as winning out, having her way ironically in the end. Rebecca Front was given this thankless role as she was given the role of an analogous sycophantic snob in Andrew Davies’s recent War and Peace.

Trollope’s novel utterly resists light satiric comedy or “fairy tale romance,” both of which Fellowes in the feature labels his film and by extension Trollope’s book.

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As Hollander squirms and twists his body to avoid the barrage, the scene becomes a tasteless joke

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So why bother write about this serial? Fellowes’s erasure and corrections reveal where the power of the novel lies and where the cranks (jars today) are in Trollope’s attitudes and in books.

In all the Fellowes’s films I’ve seen thus far he abjures all flashbacks, voice-over, soliloquy, montage, filmic epistolarity (where a character writes or reads a letter that is voiced by the actor who is played the character who wrote the letter) or any techniques that demands we go into the vulnerable psychology of any character to the extent of questioning a norm or value asserted. Trollope’s first four chapters are a daring retelling of deep, intermediate general past, and individuals personal histories (which he ironically apologizes for). He then recurs repeatedly throughout the novel to these pasts so that when the character in a social scene reveals his inner psychology, we realize the context which has given rise to this self normally hidden to us in our daily lives. I had not realized how the novel is continually working through, back and forth, deeply layered intertwined time until I watched this film adaptation. In most of Trollope’s novels we recognize his gifts for showing the private self unable not to reveal itself in the social scene for those with eyes to see and understand (Trollope’s narrator and occasional preter-natually perceptive characters like the Signora Neroni and Miss Dunstable). Here in Trollope’s seventh book he was consciously adding to that by making the character a product of a particular time, relationship, literal and social space.

Since Fellowes resists the kind of inward explanation that non-conventional filmic techniques can offer (including in-depth dialogue), all we have as opening for the film is a dialogue of the nasty excluding of Mary from Frank’s coming birthday party by his (in this film) by his stupid dense and clumsy sister, Augusta (Gwyneth Keyworth) egged on by the apparently frigid manipulative Lady Alexandrina de Courcy (Kate O’Flynn). We then launch into Frank’s proposal to Mary to marry him, her “no,” and stay in the superficial linear time of the present, with the party, and Lady De Courcy’s nagging Frank (Harry Richardson, who plays the part of a privileged sheltered and thus idealistic male aristocrat — true to the book) to chase the rich Miss Dunstable (Alison Brie) now an inanely giggling rich American. (I read that the ITV people were told they would get no American funding unless they had an American character in the cast.) As in Downton Abbey Phoebe Nicholls is given the distasteful role of an utterly ineffectual despicable older woman bully. (She is paid well for it.) Fellowes just loves to invent this kind of female monster. But he must tell the important past or the present story makes no sense. How to do it? he is reduced to having Hollander as Thorne in the very first scene he appears, Prospero-like, tell Stephanie Martini as Miranda, just about everything in one go of her sordid Scatcherd family background. Since there is too much to tell, Thorne and Mary get together twice more (after the said party) and again in the second episode after her other uncle, Sir Roger Scatcherd’s death. What’s done for compression leaves the effect of a story turned inside out.

Far from admitting to anything serious in the novel, in the feature released on the DVD, Fellowes says he regards the book as a fairy tale romance. What he has done is chosen the scenes susceptible to being presented as light satiric comedy. So by contrast, when I read the book, I realized before what an experimental novel this is in its use of layered past and movement within different times and memories.

Then Fellowes has the problem of the book’s hinge points which he feels he cannot eliminate. Scatcherd must die so that Mary can win the property. In the novel Scatcherd dies from alcoholism and we read a rare protracted death scene in a Trollope novel. The man has drunk himself to death because he has not been accepted by his true peers because of his lack of surface manners; he regrets deeply what has happened to his son who has been similarly ostracized and exploited, but can do nothing about it. The unhappy man whom his son has become results from cultural realities beyond his reach. Trollope captures perfectly the mood of someone near death, and shows us that real kindness to such a person is to take seriously what they have to say and respond to it — as Dr Thorne does and Sir Roger’s son does not. He is devastated when the powerful remove him from the place in Parliament he has worked hard to win.

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Lady Scatcherd (Janine Duvitski) over-hearing her husband talk to Thorne

I’m told that Ian McShane is a great actor. Well, in this serial he is too often presented as a foolish jackass and the aching nobility of the misfit man in the book lost. His alcoholism is made a joke of in order to make us to laugh at elections as such. The working and townspeople are of course fools, and McShane directed to play the part archly until he falls into a pigsty.  (Fellowes might tell us, have you not been watching how popular Donald Trump is?) In the book’s death scene, the pain of Scatcherd’s isolation is made worse because Thorne himself has invested so much in Mary, he cannot get himself to allow Scatcherd to know or to see her after Scatcherd first offers all his money to her and his son, if Thorne will encourage a marriage with that son. This horrifies Thorne who is as exacerbated by the class structure of the Greshamsbury as anyone. He wants above all that his darling niece-daughter be a lady, live with ladies and gentleman and turn to him. And how does Fellowes treat this matter at the center of the second episode? For a moment I had a hard time believing that Fellowes was allowing Thorne allow Mary to come over and nurse Scatcherd so we could get this emotional bath of sentimentality instead and listen to McShane as Scatcherd say he is consoled for his “misspent existence.” I now concede having read the book with others that many readers feel that Dr Thorne was wrong not to let Scatcherd see Mary and perhaps Fellowes had such readers in mind or himself felt that  way.

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“Very well,” says Hollander, and the puzzled angel appears, at which McShane says he thinks he will now cope better with “what is to come … ”

Fellowes has reversed Trollope’s Dr Thorne’s refusal to allow Sir Roger to see or be seen by his sister Mary’s grown daughter.  Dr Thorne fears that Mary will be taken from him, she who has made his existence meaningful, before he dies.  Scatcherd threatens to leave all his fortune away from her (without which Mary has only the interest from 800£ in the funds, all Dr Thorne has managed to “amass” from his village doctor practice). Perhaps Fellowes assumed no one reads Dr Thorne, or if we read it, we don’t remember it. But then there is something developed out of Dr Thorne that is unexpected and interesting.

Fellowes comes near to turning Scatcherd’s son, Sir Louis (Edward Franklin), the character pitied by Trollope’s narrator just a little, but most often despised, caricatured, sneered at, presented as a money-hungry creditor (as if he has no right to look into the arrangements Dr Thorne has made to keep Squire Gresham afloat all these years) — into a tragic or at least pitiable pathetic hero. A chunk of the denouement is given over to a mortifying plangent rendition of Louis’s pursuit of Mary Thorne, his excruciatingly inept presence at a dinner party and then death (not from delirium tremens) but a suppurating bleeding lung (reminiscent in its stagy-ness of Hugh Bonneville as Lord Grantham near death for a few seconds in Downton Abbey). This sudden death brought on because Louis galloped across the landscape out of anguish at Mary’s rejection and fell off his horse and punctured his rib cage with the horse’s saddle. This tragic slapstick is not in Trollope.

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Among the film character’s last lines is “she thought me a buffoon”

Fellowes has highlighted a problem his predecessor film adaptors managed to finesse. What are we to do with Trollope’s shameless stigmatizing of lower class males trying to “ape” gentlemen as ultimately slime to be expelled? In 1983 Alan Plater, scriptwriter of Barchester Chronicles (and thus the linchpin person) cast the part against type by hiring Alan Rickman and then had Rickman play the part with a self-controlled dignity, guarded rage, subtle manipulative ability (though out-maneuvered by Susan Hampshire as the irresistible erotic Signora Neroni). Before that a full 40 years ago (1975) in The Pallisers Simon Raven similarly endowed Trollope’s anti-semitic depiction of a Jewish hypocritical murderer, the Rev Emilius (Anthony Ainley) with a seething intensity of ambition that the amoral Lizzie Eustace (Sarah Badel) was too stupid to flee from. Fellowes, though, wanted to grant the character a full burden of human gravitas earlier, but could not pull out enough depth to invent longer scenes to show this. All we get is his screeching at his mother, Lady Scatcherd, how could you prefer Frank to me? Lady Scatcherd (as in Trollope) is otherwise mostly caricatured but as Lady Scatcherd’s preference for the heir is too much even for Fellowes (and he feared too much for pious viewers) Fellowes made her feeling acceptable by having her much earlier on insist how she loved both equally.

I grant Fellowes much of the dialogue used in the film is in the novel. He transfers the powerful epistolary narrative chapter where Augusta is treacherously persuaded by Amelia de Courcy to give up a possible happy marriage with the De Courcy solicitor, Mr Gazebee (Nicholas Rowe) on the grounds of his lack of rank into pantomime comic moments of dramatic startle. Her great cousin-friend, advisor has grabbed Gazebee for herself.

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Augusta is made into an “old maid” buffoon

There are also a lot of silences. And he throws away characters   One actor-character thrown away is Richard McShane as Squire Gresham; he wanders around looking sheepish by the end, behaving as if by not cold-shouldering others he’s doing enough. In the book it is his unexamined snobbery and self-indulgence that wasted the Gresham fortune; his ambivalent and interesting friendship with Thorne and their dialogues is altered.  The other is Miss Dunstable (Alison Brie) — she loses much of her biting irony  Fellowes has  Dr Thorne and Miss Dunstable attracted to one another and end dancing with the others in the final scene.

As a side note the production did not pay for the the use of the houses. We never see anyone going in and out. They were filmed from afar and then we found ourselves in the usual sets. One reminded me of the set from the 2009 Sense and Sensibility for Norland Park.

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Ironically, the film adaptation vindicates Trollope from being seen as simply material which lends itself to hijacking for the elite. Last year John McCourt asked why the bicentennial celebrations were so muted? He suggested that the kinds of things done were not the sorts of events a larger audience, especially one not equipped with tuxes and gowns could easily join into. As has been said before (John Letts among those saying this), Trollope has partly been hijacked by his elite mainstream fans. I’d maintain that more than his academic readers lean to the left. Plater wrote brilliantly radical 1970s style plays for TV and stage; Simon Raven was radical Tory in his outlook; Andrew Davies is a humane left-leaning liberal; Herbert Herbert’s gem, “Malachi’s Cove” shows just how down-to-earth is Trollope’s appreciation of humanity.

So while I regret very much this opportunity to film another Barsetshire book was botched, it’s salutary to see the material of this Trollope novel resist the kind of treatment Fellowes tries to give it. A friend said to me this film adaptation is something Popplecourt (from The Duke’s Children) might have written. Perhaps that’s too strong, but pace what I’ve heard some fans say, Trollope’s novels are not at all like P. G. Wodehouse.

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A rare far shot of the bedroom scene: Winterbones taking notes, Scatcherd helped up from his bed by Thorne, Lady Scatcherd leaving …

Three years later a postscript: I have grown so used to the adaptation that I am myself fond of parts of it — those which convey Trollope well and those too which give dignity to some of the characters Trollope didn’t like, e.g., Mr Moffatt).

Ellen

Author: ellenandjim

Ellen Moody holds a Ph.D in British Literature and taught in American senior colleges for more than 40 years. Since 2013 she has been teaching older retired people at two Oscher Institutes of Lifelong Learning, one attached to American University (Washington, DC) and other to George Mason University (in Fairfax, Va). She is also a literary scholar with specialties in 18th century literature, translation, early modern and women's studies, film, nineteenth and 20th century literature and of course Trollope. For Trollope she wrote a book on her experiences of reading Trollope on the Internet with others, some more academic style essays, two on film adaptations, the most recent on Trollope's depiction of settler colonialism: "On Inventing a New Country." Here is her website: http://www.jimandellen.org/ellen/ No part of this blog may be reproduced without express permission from the author/blog owner. Linking, on the other hand, is highly encouraged!

19 thoughts on “Julian Fellowes’ unwitting Dr Thorne: not quite hijacked by elite”

  1. As I commented: thoughtful and persuasive. Thank you for sharing; I really do think you’re correct about Trollope’s unmalleability.

    1. Well Simon Raven and Andrew Davies both alter Trollope, but they alter him in directions consonant with his own; Herbert takes “Malachi’s Cove” in a highly romantic direction, but it works. Alan Plater seems the closest but where he changes, he does so brilliantly. Fellowes seems to me does best when he collaborates with a strong presence: like Altman in Gosford Park. I am glad to see the ultra-Tory superficial approach not work.

  2. Albert: “Dear Ellen, extremely interesting! I suppose by now I am the only Trollopian left who has not seen the Fellowes adaptation of Doctor Thorne, because BBC 1 and BBC 2 are the only channels we can see here in the Netherlands. But I see it is now on DVD also! See how I can order it from Amazon.com

    1. Sarah: “But do you really want to? It’s pretty dire It’s certainly interesting in relation to Ellen’s review but that’s probably the only reason it’s worth a watch.”

      1. If you are interested in Trollope and film adaptation, it is worth watching in the sense I tried to outline — honestly I did not realize how the past was layered into the book until I saw it plucked out. Fellowes’s dull practice (he is as boring technically in Downton Abbey) shows how central techniques once eschewed (voice-over, flashbacks), newer ones (filmic epistolarity) montage are. Even impersonal narrator (once a total no-no for a fictional film) can be effective. I like to study films like books and have written a lot on them — I enjoy doing this as it enrichens the experience.

  3. Andrea: “I really like Tom Hollander so was quite sad that the adaptation was so poor… “

  4. Andrew S: “I have never seen the point of Julian Fellowes. I realize this is rather harsh, but I read bits of “Snobs” and if I ever have a craving for this sort of thing I turn to Waugh or (Nancy) Mitford…a bit more going on…. “

  5. I agree with Andrea that it’s sad that Hollander’s gifts were not properly used, but he has a problem of aging and being a small man and the awful Hollywood norms so that he was given an egregiously humiliating role in the much much worse Desperate Romantics.

    As to Fellowes, I’m looking at him as a film-maker and person who claims to have an understanding and feel for Trollope and producing an adequate film adaptation. As a film-maker he misrepresents in the direction of not so patrician Tory politics in all his films but when he has a stronger presence his real gifts for suggesting in-depth characters comes out. He is good at dialogue, at interweaving stories, an impersonal sense of the pity of life comes out. Beyond Gosford Park, his collaboration with Mira Nair on Vanity Fair is very interesting: she makes up for his boring lack of any innovative film techniques with her photography and her post-colonialist take on Thackeray’s Vanity Fair.

    I don’t say Fellowes doesn’t in his Downton Abbey seem to reflect the more exemplary idealized characters here and there in Trollope: say the Staveley family in Orley Farm. But without the rest of the novel of Orley Farm it would be a travesty of Victorian life and that’s what Fellowes has done in his film Dr Thorne.

    At any rate it’s been recognized so let us cross our fingers if another film adaptation comes along someone else (I wish for Andrew Davies) will be asked to do it. I suppose it’s beyond probability to hope that someone like Stephen Poliakoff (Shooting the Past) might be interested — he is so interested in the past and male pasts he’d do a great one.

  6. Thanks to mirable dictu for calling my attention to Linda Miller’s review of Fellowes’s adaptation as one of the worst she’s ever seen:

    http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/books/2016/05/the_novels_of_anthony_trollope_including_doctor_thorne_reviewed.html

    Fellowes, the creator of Downton Abbey, professes to love Trollope and to value the “moral complexity” of his characters, then proceeds to strip all such complexity out of their portrayal

    Four Literary Links: Two Critics on Doctor Thorne, “10 Tricks for Book Nerds,” & Robert Barnard’s Mysteries

    Miller does condescend: she has not thought much about what’s she’s read and has simply adopted an old fashioned consensus that Trollope’s greatest gift is “for the usual” and “realism.” He has those gifts, but they are only characteristics of a far more varied writing which includes the bizarre as part of the usual, and delves into psychological experience outside the purviews of versimilitude and probability.

  7. I’ve had a milder version of my original response, having re-watched Part 1 of the 3: I find it not as bad as I originally or bad in a different way.

    The novel is a sort of unique combination of a story of deep trauma delivered comically because of the way Trollope’s narrator speaks ironically and frames the earlier action of the characters (way before we meet them) in the past; most of what is traumatic is felt and thought by the characters themselves to themselves — or told by the narrator. Fellowes will not have over-voice, or narrative (you see this refusal in all his films) by a narrator, nor flashbacks — so he has to have his characters tell one another about this traumatic material. Needless to say, the atmosphere is wholly unlike the book, just loses any thing like the basic complex tone. It is up to a director and scriptwriter to use the tools of film-making adequately. This is just flat and unoriginal — as was as film art of Downton Abbey. Tom Hollander enacts Dr Thorne very much appropriately (though w/o comedy), and Ian McShane, Scatcherd; Harry Richardson is still Drake Carne from Poldark, Stephanie Martini is right for her part, but Miss Dunstable is more than Americanized, she is bland partly because the actress is pretty. We wonder why Frank doesn’t want to marry her …

    Ellen

  8. Another evening of sincerely trying to find something worth while in the adaptation:

    With the best will in the world this time to try to like this adaptations, I am just continually brought up short. My three part DVD wouldn’t work – the second episode on the DVD won’t play — so I was driven to watch the series on Amazon Prime where I discovered it is four episodes. So I had to rewatch the ending of my Part 1 as the opening of Part 2, and am wondering what was left out — for these 4 parts are 43 minutes and I think the three parts I have are about 50.

    Fellowes’s adaptation teaches or reminds me how hard it is to adapt an old book and under his hands he brings out problems in obsolete attitudes. In the book Frank does horsewhip Moffatt for bringing off the engagement with Augusta – many readers nowadays do decry that. Fellowes presents Frank as first not a mad dog (like Charles Wilcox in Howards End beating Leonard Bast frantically with a sword before the bookcase falls on the frail, anxious, ill man) and willing to listen and Moffatt makes a good argument: neither he or Augusta love one another. Frank hears and fair enough — but the scene elevates Moffatt who up to this point has been presented in a caricature and his fatness made fun of. Having deprived himself of narrator, voice-over, flashbacks, Fellowes must’ve been aware how little comedy he got into the adaptation so he resorts to caricature and then thinks he can drop it when it’s inconvenient. But he also caricatures Roger Scatcherd. And Ian McShane plays the part of Scatcherd as a funny rogue type — ho ho ho. Lady Scatcherd is condescended to by Fellowes – she is just this weak whimpering person who clearly loves Frank better than her son. Young Louis is obnoxious in the book, yes, so one of the worst parts of Dr Thorne Fellowes takes straight.

    I said this last time: Fellowes is far more conservative than Trollope. I suggested in the Trollope zoom that the book is radical: yes it’s on about caste (rank in the UK, class; in the US race), and all the characters obsessed by ladders, with Roger suffering because he rose above himself, but when in the book Thorne tells Scatcherd who Mary’s eldest child is, it’s Scatcherd who speaks deep common sense and the book’s radical idea: “what do I care about blood? I shan’t mind her being a bastard.” The strength of plain statement just leaps from the page. It comes out how Thorne’s attitude is “She is all I have,” and it’s Thorne who cannot bear to allow Mary also to belong to these relatives. In the film it is Thorne (Hollander) who is given the deeply felt lines based on affection. Fellowes has Roger die in terms of where he is in the film story much earlier than Trollope did because Sir Roger’s death takes time and it’s in his soliloquies – the hidden self revealed that the book is so moving and connects to Dr Thorne’s muddle himself.

    Miss Dunstable is supposed to amuse me because she smiles. At Courcy Castle there is nothing to smile at.

    The best moment in the second part as shown on Prime Video is when Scatcherd is about to die and he sees Mary come over to him and now knows she is his niece and is truly touched by her. Here though we are back to ideas of innate caste: Mary crosses class boundaries because she has in her all that Dr Thorne has provided by himself and education.

    Hollander has some good moments too. As did the actor as Moffat confronting Frank. I am sorry for Richard McCabe, the actor playing the hopeless Mr Gresham as he is made utterly hopeless — Fellowes despises anyone who does not succeed monetarily in the upper world..

    I see in this four part the adaptation opens with Fellowes in Alistair Sim’s chair and ends — telling us what to think — how complex Trollope’s characters. right.

    Ellen

  9. Well I watched Part 3 in the Prime Amazon version.

    Again, its awkwardness seems to rip open before us all the improbabilities and gaps in Trollope’s novel. It is a mystery how Mr Gresham could possibly care for Mrs Gresham: Rebecca Front is just so obnoxious.

    The pace and amount of material Fellowes thought he needed to get in left little room for us to get a sense of Mary and Frank’s love — when she says yes suddenly it’s unexpected. Any viewer who has not read the book and has thoughtful responses will wonder at this book — remember Scatcherd is reduced to a sort of clown.

    It’s just so obvious too too: the casting person has deliberately picked actresses for the other young women parts who look like one another and quite different from Mary — all pudgy smooth skin. When I looked back at my blog I find the reviews at the time were mostly “this is awful stuff.” It’s achieved some respectability because Fellowes persists, there are Trollope fans who will watch it without complaining ….

    Ellen

  10. Part 4: 2/16/2021 around noon:

    Again last night the same response as last time — I am just puzzled as to why Fellowes makes Louis Scatcherd a tragic hero: so much time is spent on trying to make us feel sorry for a character who at his best in Trollope (and Trollope is unfair to a large extent because he has Louis as innately inferior – sending him to good schools only brought out the worst sides of his character it seems), in Trollope, I say, and in the film, at his best is a lout, selfish, ignorant, callously cruel to the mother, indifferent to his father, endlessly drunk and obnoxious to everyone deliberately.

    I can concede Dr Thorne is a hard book to present; that maybe Fellowes needed an American character to get money out of HBO to make the serial; this his kind of 20th century conservatism is out of line with Trollope’s 19th century so it becomes a puzzle why a large chunk of the story dwells on Louis Scatcherd. Trollope dwells on the pathetic stupidity of Augusta who allows Amelia to steal a man, Mr Gazebee, who would have made her happy; as Fellowes puts it in the serial, give her something to do she’s be useful at. In Trollope’s novel, we get build up; brilliant epistolary correspondence, and then bitter loss — showing that you should not judge someone solely by caste. Fellowes and his director make her into a spoilt brat; and every effort in directing is to make her look as someone with a fat face making sour faces.

    I’m not one who rejoices at Dr Thorne turning to dance with Miss Dunstable in such a way as we know she might say yes to him. What does that do to Thorne’s cry, that Mary is all he has, his hurt over years ago when another young woman rejected him after his brother murdered Sir Roger?

    I was surprised at some responses to Dr Thorne yesterday in the Zoom meeting. The talk by everyone on Dr Thorne has in general been very good — but to me the number of people blaming Dr Thorne for bringing Mary up the way he did shows the gut level conservativism of many Trollope fans — she would have been a misfit, they said. Had he not she would have died in a poorhouse. The book works on a symbolic as well as realistic level and is radical — apparently even today.

    People also all upset, because Thorne hid Mary’s birth from the Scatcherds — again this intense respect for people one is immediately biologically connected to. Maybe this is why Fellowes has in the film Scatcherd told before he dies. So we get Scatcherd suddenly worshipping Mary as a female icon.

    It had its moments but the best and complex ones — Mary and Frank coming together — after she has been so ostracized, so alone, so hurt by Lady Arabella and Lady de Courcy, Thorne’s joy and (in the book vexed resistance to Mary actually inheriting because she is illegitimate — that is there) — are passed over. We are supposed to watch Lady Arabella eating crow as fun.

    I am not wrong to see this as an unaware male POV. We are to care about the males (Dr Thorne so guilty he cannot help Louis) and find satisfaction in an ending that gets back at the females (Richard McCabe calls Lady Arabella Bell and suddenly can tell her to stop talking and no question dances with her at the end).

    Ellen

  11. Still rewatching the four part Doctor Thorne scripted and basically produced and directed (he picked the director) by Jerome Fellowes. By dint of rewatching I’ve discovered, the 3 part omits whole scenes and lots of tidbits — and is therefore much duller, blander. I’m enjoying it within limits — the kinder comic moments, where the better characters shine (Mary, Doctor Thorne, Frank). I’ve discovered not only does Fellowes actually identify with Sir Louis and extend his part, but also Mr Moffatt – from Fellowes’s speech before and after one of the parts far more than Sir Roger or Dr Thorne. He identifies with Moffatt too — that’s partly why he won’t let Frank beat him up and he gives him a better speech to Frank over why he would not marry Augusta; in the serial Moffatt also does not contest Sir Roger’s win. Sir Roger dies too soon to take office. Fellowes is attracted to the amoral, gets a kick out of those who love money (Arabella Gresham) openly and aggressively. He seems to have little interest (perhaps belief) in exacerbated nobility of feeling such as we find it in the lower class Sir Roger … He makes Sir Roger a bully who humiliates his wife continually (and gives her no strength) and a jackass in public to amuse the crowd. Some of the choices of actor and actress are felicitious, especially the three main ones. Tom Hollander is a brilliant actor. Alison Brie’s role as Miss Dunstable is so shorn, it’s not her fault she cannot break out of a romantic sweetly sarcastic mold.

    I have read Fellowes’s introduction to the latest Oxford where he de-emphasizes what he says so frankly on the DVD, so the DVD with the features (or as played on Amazon prime) is worth watching for that too.

  12. John Wirenius: “One of the many problems with the adaptation is that Tom Hollander just doesn’t have the thwarted pride and explosive temper that Trollope uses to characterize Doctor Thorne. Ian MacShane could have nailed the part, or, if Fellowes wanted a slighter man for some reason, Peter Capaldi, doing RP.”

    My reply: “I really find strange the characters in the novel whom Fellowes seems to sympathize with: Moffatt, Louis Scatcherd, Lady Arabella. These are not contemporary values (I hope) substituting for Trollope’s 19th century ones. He makes Lady Scatcherd so abject and cheerful (!), and laughs at Augusta (which Trollope doesn’t). I agree with you that Trollope’s Doctor Thorne has a strong temper — I find the same paradigm in Frank Fenwick in Vicar of Bullhampton, and the uncle-father in Is He Popenjoy? Hollander plays the part as someone who contains his fierce pride — and anger at how Mary is being treated. Fellowes has replaced Trollope’s book and values with those he, Fellowes, prefers: capitalist, ambition everything: that he knows he did this is shown in the difference between what he says on the DVD or Amazon Prime introducing the 4 part version (which is better) and what he wrote in his introduction to the recent Oxford (which is a good introduction). At the time a number of reviewers really panned the serial.”

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